JOIN GONDOR!!!!!

[Lord Of Fangorn]

This thread is a debate on why everyone should join Gondor. Here are some reasons to help you decide:


1. We are the mightiest nation of them all!


2. We have a vast array of amazing heroes such as Aragorn and Boromir!


3. We have some of the best troops in Middle Earth such as the Citadel Guard and the Swan Knights of Dol Amroth!



And finally, I'm willing to give anyone that ditches Mordor, Harad or Moria some reknown! Just post when you have on this post and I will give you some reknown.

:paladin: JOIN GONDOR TODAY! :paladin:

[Anonymous]

if you are so grand why are you resorting to bribery to pad your ranks??

Nothing beats the ROTN

[Lord Of Fangorn]

if you are so grand why are you resorting to bribery to pad your ranks??

Nothing beats the ROTN

Just like to point this out:

When The Last Alliance won and the kingdom of men split into two parts, one died down and one grew and continued. Guess which one the ROTN belong. Oh and guess which one Gondor did?

[Lyte]

Are you talking about when the King of Numenor sailed against the Valar? Then they split, The faithful, led by Elendil, went to Middle Earth, and founded the kingdoms of Arnor(North) and Gondor(South). The Witch King of Angmar(the Lord of the Nazgul) destroyed the Northern Kingdom, thats the only reason they died. Oh, and Elendil founded Arnor, and their line stayed true, and has not dimished as much as Gondor's has. So, a RotN is way better than a Soldier of Gondor(or ranger, or whatever you compare him to.) :wink:

In conclusion-- Rogue got you! :D

[LordBoromir]

When Numenor split into two parts, one died down and one grew and continued. Guess which one the ROTN belong. Oh and guess which one Gondor did?

Oh, I know this one! The section that grew formed a haven and called it Umbar. Which was later sacked by the Men of Harad, killing as they go. 8)

Join Harad. :wink:

[Lord Of Fangorn]

Let's just clear this up now!

I have edited the post and I would just like to say that, 3rd Age Gondor was 100 times that of RotN. Join Gondor! :wink:

Now stop and think about this, we are all for the same course. Destroy Sauron's realm! I will now admit that Ecthelion made a good point. Ec, this better not come back to haunt me!

Join Gondor!

[Lyte]

When The Last Alliance won and the kingdom of men split into two parts, one died down and one grew and continued. Guess which one the ROTN belong. Oh and guess which one Gondor did?

Then Your saying Gondor and RotN are the same :?:
You are confusing me, which split are you talking about?
The Kin-Strife(Gondor vs Umbar, like LB said)
or Arnor and Gondor(which was never a split, just two separate kingdoms, led by the same family)

Clear it up even more, provide details :wink:

And GO RIVENDELL! :D

[Lord Of Fangorn]

Join Gondor!

I get the final laugh!

[Draugluin]

if this topic has actualy had an effect on anyone, please post and let us know

[ElessarTheGreat]

I have applied for Gondor!

[Lord Of Fangorn]

Congrats!

Enjoy your cookie!

HAHAHA! Bribery prevales!!!!!!!

[captain_of_morgul]

why is it that everyone is going on and on about harad and gondor... and not the one country that saved gondors buts at pellinor feilds!!!!!!!!!!!!!

rohan rocks. even though my name is captain_of_morgul.............

[gondorian_knight]

As a note it was in fact gondor that saved the day at pelenor fields. Aragorn rounded up an army of men from south Gondor to win the battle - in the books it states that rohan would have lost without them. However I do not want any rivalry between any of the good races - we are on the same side after all.

To all people who dont have an alleigance pick gondor, or failing that, at least join the forces of good!

[Ranfolk]

You are of course right gondorian_knight. Rohan and Gondor could not have won the fight without Aragorn and his reinforcements. However, had Rohan not shown up, it would have been too late for Aragorn to do anything. So, it doesn't matter, all forces were needed at the Battle of Pelenor fields. I would like to point out though that Rohan made the most impact with their thousands of riders charging into the forces of Mordor ( :wink: :wink: ) Go free peoples of Middle Earth.

Josh

[rimmsy]

I think I will...

I mean, the avatar. C'mon. It's not very Rohan-like is it?

[gondorian_knight]

You are certainly most welcome at Gondor, along with anyone else who wants to join.

Besides, we offer the best dental plan :lol:


Dave

[While]

Join Isengard instead! We are the mightiest race of all kind! We are the strongest warriors of all!

So join Isengard! Join the ranks of Saruman, wisest of all!

[gondorian_knight]

I wish people wouldnt Highjack our thread - isengard has its own. Obviously scared of Gondor, and well they should be :P

[While]

It's just that we are about 3 active members..

[captain_of_morgul]

i would just like to say sorry i forgot that part about eomer singing, and then he raised his sword to chalenge the corsairs, and then arwens banner pops out and then thousands of orcs die in seconds.

and another thing as long as you join either gondor or rohan i am happy. but ah i still think that rohan is better.


and i will be in a movie theater on the 19 of may. that is when it all ends, and then thoushands of star wars fans will go into the movie depresion that we have gone into.

[BZakker]

I'll probably join but I don't get it.
Do I have to battle or something or it just means I'm in allegiance with them? Sorry I'm new.

[Krahl]

I'll probably join but I don't get it.
Do I have to battle or something or it just means I'm in allegiance with them? Sorry I'm new.

Hi BZakker,

I recently answered someone else concerning this exact same thing so am copying that response here. :)

The allegiances are simply your Middle-Earth affiliation. They will dictate who your leader on the site will be (we're in the process of getting those all filled right now), what actual ranks you will be given (the ranks are different for the different affiliations!) and what type of troops you will be able to use in the upcoming campaign(s).

It's definitely good advice to choose the one you like the best, you can always switch later if you decide to go a new route.

Hope that helps. If you have any other questions feel free to ask.

Krahl

[BZakker]

So does someone have to book a battle with me if I join?
And I have one more question, say someone does challenge me and I
live nowhere near them, what happens then. Like I said before sorry I'm new.

[Krahl]

So does someone have to book a battle with me if I join?
And I have one more question, say someone does challenge me and I
live nowhere near them, what happens then. Like I said before sorry I'm new.

:)

No, you don't have to book battles. Our allegiances on Palantir are intended to be more far reaching than that of some other sites. They will eventually play into your entire experience here, including your rise through the ranks.

Our campaign is not yet set up so there is no need to worry about being challenged and battling just yet. More information will be available soon though, as the war is indeed coming...

Don't worry about being new or asking questions, we enjoy helping out. ;)

Krahl

[Lord Phillock]

Mordor's cool. They have the big guy, The black king of the Nazgul, and, technically used to have the Balrogs. And sorta Shelob, and a bunch o Uruks and a ton of Orcs, and Harad Allies, and the one ring, and them spiders o' mirkwood, and ugly trolls, and even eviler Olog Hai, Ringwraiths, Mumak thingies, goblins, and Grond, and a thing called Gothmog, and a Balrog captain called Gothmog, and they technically own Isengard, and they have an annoying, and a foul-mouthed man called the mouth of Sauron....

:lol:

[gondorian_knight]

Again, people highjack the gondor thread! Make your own! :P

Remember - we're the saviours of middle earth and have the best dental.

Join Gondor!

[werewolf]

and dont forget, you get weekends and bank holidays off :)

[Bil123]

What if we come right off the streets. And the ROTN is the worst with the least amount of troop choices none and only heros and there are only three. Also ROTN is closed from the public so nobody can join it. I might join gondor but I have spme Mordor guys so I'm not sure but I'll probably do mordor cause of my avatar but I might not.

[fosco sandybanks]

HOBBITS 4 LIFE :P :P :P :P :P :P :P

[Bil123]

Hobbits those guys are little farmers and stuff they will die and burn
:twisted: :twisted: :evil:

[Don_Falcone]

@Bil123 : Is it Already the time for you, guys of more dorks, to send your Santa Claus wishing lists ?

I have always like Evil people. They seem to have a bright sense of humor... And when times for battle is there, they always seem to fight against people of their brands... Hobbits are maybe little people but guys of More Dorks have little brain, is that your explaination of trying to slain our friends from hobbit land ?

(PS : My message had no intent to be politely uncorrect but if you do think that Men of More Dorks can be taken by others as above, please, feel free to delete it)

[Gilant]

I have joined Gondor!

p.s. when will this campaign start??

[Miruvor]

Hobbits those guys are little farmers and stuff they will die and burn

Don't you know what that would mean though? All of middle earth would be thrown into a cataclysmic food shortage cycle! No potatoes, carrots, or *gulp* WEED!!!! What a horrible thought :cry:
Don't believe me?
See, where y is equal to crops and w is equal to weed and h is equal to amount of men unable to fight because they're stoned.

y = .....never mind, we'll just skip that

w = lots and lots

h = 1.2 x 10 to the 8th

Incredibly advanced and difficult algebra. :P

Weed shortage would be awful for moria....think of all those poor deprived little goblins. :cry:

:wink:

[KingofRohan8888]

I have a few questions but will join Gondor.

1. Do you just say your joined to Gondor, Rohan ect.?

2. When does the campaign start.

3. Is this the one campaign. The one campaign










TO RULE THEM ALL :)

[Legolas13]

I've joined Gondor!
When this campaign starts?

[Baldor]

You know Mordor would have been a better choice....ah well.

[Dorthonion]

Gondor: I'm in.

[KingofRohan8888]

Same here.

[Londrandir of Mirkwood]

What about the Sindar? The Wood Elves need you!

[Dorthonion]

The Elves have Galadriel, Celeborn and Elrond, not to mention the Killer Squirrels of Mirkwood with their walnut bazookas: takes out a Mumak at 96 inches every time.

[Skywalker312]

The Elves have Galadriel, Celeborn and Elrond, not to mention the Killer Squirrels of Mirkwood with their walnut bazookas: takes out a Mumak at 96 inches every time.


Walnuts!!!!!!!!???????????????? whats with people throwing all sorts of stuff at us. spears, rocks(from the trebs), and now walnuts, it begining to annoy, DEATH TO GONDOR AND THE ELVES :twisted:

[Dorthonion]

Ah, the old psy-ops ploy still works.

(sits back, drinking tea and contentedly eating triple choc cookie, munch munch)

[American Viking]

I'm in for Gondor!
when does the campaign start and how do You take part?

[Wymarc]

Gondor is weak. We have rotted it through hundereds of years of constant war. Harad will see Minas Tirith burned and Dol Amroth flattened.

join Harad, We have giant Elephants!



(p.s. RotN are Shire/Rivindell, arn't they?)

[American Viking]

So what that You have giant elephants. Hit em once and they kill have Your force if Your not careful. Get off the thread!!!

[American Viking]

Gondor guys!
We've got to do something, Rhun and Khand are growing in strength and they'll crush us if we don't do something.

[Skywalker312]

:lol: we got them scared, high five to all evil peoples! :eye:

[Suladan, the Serpent Lord]

Gondor shall be cornered! Mwhahaha :twisted:

[American Viking]

I'm not scared of You!
I'm just trying to rally Gondor to fight and putting forth the facts as they are :twisted:

[Patrick]

Evil has already done that for you. :twisted:

[Baldor]

Woohoo go evil! All rally to the great eye!

[KingofRohan8888]

evil stinks.

GO GONDOR!
GO GONDOR!

ITS YOUR BIRTHDAY
ITS YOUR BIRTHDAY.

[Suladan, the Serpent Lord]

Well, our over-powering stench must have effected your brains...

ITD YOUR BIRTHDAY

:P Jokes...

[LAE671]

Bah, ever hav our people stood strong against the tide of evil that is Mordor and Harad, and ever shall we continue to do so! We fear no silly snake lovers, their fangs do not penetrate our tin cans! And all Mordor can do is stare us down, pfft. Instead YOU should fear the Tin Soldiers and sneaky Rangers!!! Listen well, for in the not too distant future you will be trembling in fear at the sound of the approach of Gondor! FOR GONDOR AND THE KING!!!!!

Cheers,
LAE671

[Skywalker312]

You wish us to look upon your armies and tremble........................well we see them.
ill look for you on the feild of battle, and your last sight will be of the serpent lord, and your last emotion will be of fear.

Rally together, men of gondor, your doom is near! the hammerblow will be swift and you will not survive.

can i get a Huzzah!

[American Viking]

Gondor stands firm!!
Snake boys and orky dorkys, You shall soon tremble in fear!

[Suladan, the Serpent Lord]

Huzzah for the Serpent Lord! Huzzah for the South! Huzzah for the Dark Lord of the Black Land! :twisted:

[Men-With-Arms of Dol Amro]

I just wondered wether you needed too fight somewhrere or so but if i´d be for


GONDOR :wink:

[American Viking]

Hey, I'll fight for Gondor, I just am kinda isolated out here in Poland

[Suladan, the Serpent Lord]

Fight for Harad, and you'll never be isolated with our huge, ever-expanding country! :)

[gondorian_knight]

At one time I led Gondor, but I was lost and have returned. I seek not the throne, simply to aid Gondor. Now the enemies of Gondor will shudder in fear.

You hear that? It's the rumble of Gondors armies. You thought us waining in power, your mistake will cost you dearly.

We fear not the men of the south, faceless men of treachery and evil.

And we fear not the black land, the land of fire and darkness.

A new light will come to middle earth, one forged in the fire of battle, and we, with our bright steel and unfaltering courage, shall shine through and fear the coming of no enemy.

As my esteemed bretheren said before me.

FOR GONDOR AND THE KING!!!!!!!!!!!

[American Viking]

Here, Here!
when do we get to kick some Southron butsky?

[Suladan, the Serpent Lord]

Southron butsky? That's a good speech there I must say, but we are ready for you, bring the war on and we'll see who the victor is! :twisted:

[Men-With-Arms of Dol Amro]

I think you should know by now that Gondor would beat Harad to Oblivion if they weren´t so civilized unlike you :twisted:

[Skywalker312]

I think you should know by now that Gondor would beat Harad to Oblivion if they weren´t so civilized unlike you :twisted:

tell that to the corsairs who raided you to death for nearly an age. where was gondor's strength then? it shows us one thing, that Gondor is weak, and will fall to its doom by the time the scourge of middle earth is done with it.

HARAD FOREVER!!!!

[Men-With-Arms of Dol Amro]

tell that to the corsairs who raided you to death for nearly an age. where was gondor's strength then? it shows us one thing, that Gondor is weak, and will fall to its doom by the time the scourge of middle earth is done with it.

HARAD FOREVER!!!!

well did you remember those mankyCorsairs being overtaken in Umbar :?:

[Patrick]

At one time I led Gondor, but I was lost and have returned. I seek not the throne, simply to aid Gondor. Now the enemies of Gondor will shudder in fear.

You hear that? It's the rumble of Gondors armies. You thought us waining in power, your mistake will cost you dearly.

We fear not the men of the south, faceless men of treachery and evil.

And we fear not the black land, the land of fire and darkness.

A new light will come to middle earth, one forged in the fire of battle, and we, with our bright steel and unfaltering courage, shall shine through and fear the coming of no enemy.

As my esteemed bretheren said before me.

FOR GONDOR AND THE KING!!!!!!!!!!!

The only reason that they are hearing the Minas Tirith coming, is cause Minas Tirith are running from the MIGHTY ISENGARD

[Skywalker312]

tell that to the corsairs who raided you to death for nearly an age. where was gondor's strength then? it shows us one thing, that Gondor is weak, and will fall to its doom by the time the scourge of middle earth is done with it.

HARAD FOREVER!!!!

well did you remember those mankyCorsairs being overtaken in Umbar :?:

that was most deffinatly a fluke, and will not happen again :evil: Beware your pride, tin man, else you die before the battle ever begins!

[Suladan, the Serpent Lord]

tell that to the corsairs who raided you to death for nearly an age. where was gondor's strength then? it shows us one thing, that Gondor is weak, and will fall to its doom by the time the scourge of middle earth is done with it.

HARAD FOREVER!!!!

well did you remember those mankyCorsairs being overtaken in Umbar :?:

that was most deffinatly a fluke, and will not happen again :evil: Beware your pride, tin man, else you die before the battle ever begins!

Anyway, we laid seige to Umbar and re-gained it!

[American Viking]

Enough chitchat, boys, let's go kill some elephants guys and orcs. Tin Men 4ever!

[Men-With-Arms of Dol Amro]

yes because at the end we dont kill our own people (or fail to do so) :twisted: :fence:

[Suladan, the Serpent Lord]

When did we kill our own people?

[Men-With-Arms of Dol Amro]

have you ever read the stories in Battle for Pellenor Field before the Scenario I think your swuladan got attacked by one of the Hashari didn´t he? :twisted:

[lotrchampion]

Yeah, but Gondor will soon smell of Mumak poo, once we've been through it anyway...... :twisted:

Of course, my Haradrim are also yet to be beaten, although they have been pulled to a draw once or twice...... :wink:

[Suladan, the Serpent Lord]

have you ever read the stories in Battle for Pellenor Field before the Scenario I think your swuladan got attacked by one of the Hashari didn´t he? :twisted:

To be honest I didn't know that, but that Hasharii will get a beating from me...anyway, that was then, this is now. The Haradrim are under one banner.

[LAE671]

I will defend Harad just this once In saying that I don't think people should be referring to GW Fluff (which is all the Hashari are) as if it's genuine LOTR 'history'. And besides, have you not heard of the Kin-strife?

But anyways, it's not an issue, either way we're going to kick Harad's buttocks!

Cheers,
LAE671

[American Viking]

I don't remember anything about the Hasharii in the books, but then again I don't remember anything about the warg rider attack on the way to HD either in the book. Harad will die as soon as we get playing!

[Men-With-Arms of Dol Amro]

I don't remember anything about the Hasharii in the books, but then again I don't remember anything about the warg rider attack on the way to HD either in the book. Harad will die as soon as we get playing!

Heard that ?
Haradrim aren´t worth to be remembered and they will loose
Hehe I think thats true

[lotrchampion]

LAE, please note that is was only the arrival of the Army of the Dead that won the Battle of the Pelennor for Good. Rohan was getting squished, and Minas Tirith was virtually captured, the trolls were clammering at the upper level doors. So, if Isengard prevent Aragorn from reaching Dwimborg...... :twisted:

[Suladan, the Serpent Lord]

Exactly, if the Army of the Dead hadn't captured Pelagir, The realm of Gondor and Rohan would soon be in ruin.

[LAE671]

I would note that for a fact Lotrchampion if it were 'true'. I choose to follow the actual storyline as written by Tolkien, meaning that in fact the Army of the Dead did not win the Pellenor Fields, it was infact the Rangers of the North.

American Viking, there's a good reason you don't remember the Hasharii: They're GW Fluff.

Cheers,
LAE671

[Skywalker312]

I would note that for a fact Lotrchampion if it were 'true'. I choose to follow the actual storyline as written by Tolkien, meaning that in fact the Army of the Dead did not win the Pellenor Fields, it was infact the Rangers of the North.

American Viking, there's a good reason you don't remember the Hasharii: They're GW Fluff.

Cheers,
LAE671

thats not entirly true either, though it does have some truth to it.

but thats not entirly the point, lets get back on topic, i think we've jacked gondor thread long enough, it not our fault they just don't understand that Haradrim pawn Gondorians.

[Men-With-Arms of Dol Amro]

whatever you say Skywalker :twisted:

[Baldor]

Hmm....what the heck, I'll join Gondor for awhile. :)

Just make sure your leader approves my subscription ASAP....

Mordor is a little quiet anyway...

Please welcome your newest recruit :D

[American Viking]

HeHe. You're jumping ship because You know Mordor will lose! Welcome to Gondor! I know the Hasharii were'nt in the book. The trolls were having a hard time battering in the gates without Grond. The catapults probably didn't have range either. Harad and Mordor will lose!

[Patrick]

but this isnt the book, and now we are more ready.
one way or another, you must realize. YOU ARE DOOMED! :twisted:

[Baldor]

Nah, mordors great. I just needed a little break from evil.

[Lord Of Fangorn]

I forgot I started this thread all that time ago!

BTW When did "JOIN GONDOR!!!!!" mean "let's all discuss the history of Harad"

As soon as I'm back in the allegiance you guys are all toast (apart of course those faithful members of the wonderful Gondor!)

Brace yourselves!

[Heavywood]

The trolls were having a hard time battering in the gates without Grond. The catapults probably didn't have range either. Harad and Mordor will lose!

But when the gate was broken, my memory seems to remember the tin men behind it getting absolutely crushed (literally and figuratively) by the nasty things coming through the doors. Nasty things like trolls, orcs and Easterlings....

[LAE671]

It'll be great to have you back aboard LoF! We could do with some more active members in Gondor :tounge:

Anyways guys, please try to keep this thread on topic. I urge all of you out there that have a Gondor army to join the Gondor Allegiance. We've got some great things coming up, and when the campaign starts we're going to be a force to be reckoned with, so join us before you get crushed ! :tounge:

cheers,
LAE671

[Tolkien Die-Harder]

Yeah! Join Gondor! If you read tLotR properly you'll see that the good guys win and all the bad guys lose so there's no point joining evil! Plus, think of the awesome range of minis Gondor can have: CG, GotfC, rangers, WoMT, KoMT, SKoDA, seige engines and HEAPS of heros. You don't get that kind of selection with any other army.

[BoromirCaptainOfGondor]

Uncle Aragorn wants YOU! :woot:

http://www.coolimagehosting.com/uploads/a8d872454f.jpg (http://www.coolimagehosting.com)

Good old fashion motivational poster :D

[The_sea_of_Rhun]

Lol what were you thinking.
But then again i did convert uncle same into a German with a spiked helmet for a History project, but the ya go.

cheers

[Lord Of Fangorn]

LOL! You did us gondorians proud (I think!)!

JOIN GONDOR OR WE'LL SEND OUR UNCLE ARAGORN AROUND TO YOUR HOUSE!

[Gilant]

Lol Boromir, that should motivate some people in here! Excellent work!
:rofl: :veryhappy:

[Faramir_of_Ithilien]

There is only one thing I have to say, and that is that you can't give star cookies away now. What are you doing now??:nah:

[Krahl]

There is only one thing I have to say, and that is that you can't give star cookies away now. What are you doing now??:nah:

I'm not sure what you're referring to about giving those away (for what reason, I mean) but we actually have even better things now.

First, there is renown - which is a general indicator of how the site's membership percieves you.

Second, our new Rank system is a method we're utilizing to show how much work and effort a member has put into helping their Allegiance.

Both of those are able to be added to by the allegiance leader and renown is boostable by any member.

There just might be more coming too! So, don't fret over the old cookies and whatnot. ;)

Krahl

[Lord Of Fangorn]

Sorry better clear this up!

For the old star-shaped cookie rank system has been replaced with the reknown system so I have changed the original post.

Now if you join Gondor (either from another allegiance or as your first allegiance) you will recieve some reknown from me or possibly from another member of the allegiance.

I would now like to openly say that this is completely and utterly bribery. We are open about it but, oh, how it works!

Join Gondor today!

[Artemis Entreri]

Bribery won't do you any good if you are dead. :kane: you will all be crushed by the Serpant!!!

Sorry to rain on your parade, but it's just a fact.

[Lord Of Fangorn]

That's if you can get your stupid elephants to trot in the right way first. The Serpent will fall to the mighty tree of Gondor.

[Skywalker312]

Tell me, how will a dead tree save you Master Fangorn. And don't worry about directions, you will be running from whatever direction our mumakil are going.

[Lord Of Fangorn]

Tell me, how will a dead tree save you Master Fangorn. And don't worry about directions, you will be running from whatever direction our mumakil are going.

There you go! You said it yourself! A dead tree is capable of defeating you measily evil trash.

Gondor can defeat all comers! End of!

[Skywalker312]

Right, of course, i agree, you can defeat ALL oncomers. Thats why osgiliath was taken, and your mighty armies trying to take our land were defeated. Hmm, yes, ALL opponents. Boast as much as you like, it won't make you live a moment longer. Your tree burns, whether or not you see it, and its so called "power" that it once held is all but gone. Will you look to your allies? Bah, let me say it again, mere stableboys. You tin men will not last long, no, i think not. Your view of power is... how should i say it, dreadfully amusing. Boromir will not save you, nor will that madman you call your leader. Much will have to be overcome to defeat the lord Sauron, and we bar your way. Do not presume to try to talk of defeating us, you've yet to fight the full power of the Serpent Kingdoms...
Sky,

[BoromirCaptainOfGondor]

how did rotk end?
With the defeat of Sauron and the coming of the king!
We are back in our prime with the return of Aragorn, and our alligences with Rohan has only been strengthened!

[Artemis Entreri]

As i recall, at the end of ROTK, Gondor was getting it's butt whupped until Frodo finally destroyed the Ring.

[BoromirCaptainOfGondor]

Yeah, and what happened after Frodo destroyed the ring?

[Skywalker312]

Ahh, but both of you are in the wrong age...

We are arguing before the whole war of the ring about the war of the ring. In which i say frodo's journey was a fluke.

Now that has been said, Gondor's might is failing, and minas tirith will fall (this time). Your doom is near, and you my fine friend will not live to see your so called "king" gain his kindom. Nor will he for that matter

[BoromirCaptainOfGondor]

Hold on Time out, so we're argueing as if it was before the War of the Ring? or after. I didn't quite understand what you meant.

[Skywalker312]

Psst: that would be before and during! :secret:

[BoromirCaptainOfGondor]

Okay thanks:bonk:

Well then we do have Boromir of Gondor.

[Skywalker312]

Right, of course, i agree, you can defeat ALL oncomers. Thats why osgiliath was taken, and your mighty armies trying to take our land were defeated. Hmm, yes, ALL opponents. Boast as much as you like, it won't make you live a moment longer. Your tree burns, whether or not you see it, and its so called "power" that it once held is all but gone. Will you look to your allies? Bah, let me say it again, mere stableboys. You tin men will not last long, no, i think not. Your view of power is... how should i say it, dreadfully amusing. Boromir will not save you, nor will that madman you call your leader. Much will have to be overcome to defeat the lord Sauron, and we bar your way. Do not presume to try to talk of defeating us, you've yet to fight the full power of the Serpent Kingdoms...
Sky,

hmm.... what can i say.... MUAHAHAHAHA

[BoromirCaptainOfGondor]

You seem to have forgotten the time that Boromir repelled the forces of Mordor in Osgiliath...

[Skywalker312]

You seem to have forgotten the time that Boromir repelled the forces of Mordor in Osgiliath...

Yet even a mighty hero such as Boromir cannot stand up to the black arrows of the Uruk Hai, nor the poisenous ones from Harad. You seem to have forgotten his end

[Lord Of Fangorn]

Just to clear up:

Gondor has defeated Harad and the Corsairs numerous times to keep you in your places.

Rohan (with the aide of Gondor) defeated the forces of Khand and all the lands to the far east.

Gondor managed to hold Osgiliath against countless numbers for years before the forces of evil finally took it.

Gondor has kept the borders of the southern fiefdoms free from raiders for a long time and has even extended their borders into harad.

And just gotta say...

...at least we don't need to use elephants and other large animals to fight because our soldiers aren't any good!

Gondor and the realms of men will remain longer than any of your pitifull nations!

[BoromirCaptainOfGondor]

Yet even a mighty hero such as Boromir cannot stand up to the black arrows of the Uruk Hai, nor the poisenous ones from Harad. You seem to have forgotten his end

That was only after taking down at least 20 uruks. And he was alone.
And you may have poison arrows, but you'll have to get past Boromir's D of 7 first.

[Lord Of Fangorn]

Well said BoromirCaptainOfGondor!

GO GONDOR GO!

[Skywalker312]

Well speaking in gaming terms, the real question is, will Boromirs fate be any different than the other heros my mumak has run over in the past. Should I list the ones that underestimated its S 9? Dain, Gil Galad, Elrond, Aragorn, Gimli, Legolas, and Gandalf. Of course, you could argue that its the player not the model, and rightly so, but the same with Boromir:hmph:

PS: good point bout the uruks though

[Artemis Entreri]

^And half of those guys are tougher than Boromir too.

Put that in your coffee cup and drink it. <-- (I have no idea, so don't ask)

[BoromirCaptainOfGondor]

Well I don't drink Coffee... ;P
Anyway what if I attacked your mighty mumak?
It only has a fight value of 4. And with Boromir's large amount of might its almost an instant win for Boromir.

[Skywalker312]

HA! as if we'd let you attack our mumak. Even if you did manage it, Boromir could only produce 3 wounds. Instant wound, mabey, instant win, Deffinatly not. You roll ones and you're doomed.

[BoromirCaptainOfGondor]

Yes, but he has 6 might!
And if I did inflict a wound then the next turn you have a chance of rampaging your own models!

[Skywalker312]

very true, but the mahud cheiften has a courage of 5 if you didn't notice, and i would be fairly difficult to make the mumak stampede with his will and might.

Also, lets say i got priority, then you get squished. Strength of nine has that affect on many heros!

[BoromirCaptainOfGondor]

Thats when I use a heroic move.

[Skywalker312]

thats when i counter it :rofl:

Anyways, thats getting beside the point. If you heart truly lies in men with shiney helmets, GO FOR GONDOR! but if you want something more in middle earth.... you'll figure it out!

[Lord Of Fangorn]

Well we all now know exactly how a battle between Sky and BCoG would go!

I would like to point out that no one would just charge a mumak with boromir. i would add king elessar and a few citadel guard (oh and of course a firey storm from the trebuchets). Oh dear bye bye mumak!

End Of...

*Breaks into song to a tune from Joseph and the Technicolor Dreamcoat*
GO GO GO GONDOR! YOU KNOW WHAT THEY SAY! GO GO GO GONDOR! YOU'LL MAKE IT IN THE FOURTH AGE!
*Ends; Bows; Bows again; Trips over; Falls on his face; Booed off the stage!*

[Artemis Entreri]

And no one would send a mumakil all by itself. Aragorn and the citadel guard would either be crushed by other mumak, preoccupied by infantry, or both.

And that was us booing you off the stage.

[Heavywood]

Typical foes, putting way too much attention on the Mumak and not enough on the other units.

"Mess with the best and die like all the rest!"

[Artemis Entreri]

Did i not just say that "no one would send a mumak all by itself"? it would have backup.

[LAE671]

Hey guys, at the moment I feel the Mumak issue is being a bit overdone. It's a great miniature, very powerful in the game (I know this from experience, i killed 19 Riders of Rohan in one turn with one once, although this only happened because we were playing a BIG Siege of Gondor/Battle of the Pellenor Fields game, over 850 models if I recall correctly) and with the right support can be nigh unbeatable.

However, Gondor has some brilliant troops available, and really the simple way to kill a mumak is just hit it with a Battlecry Trebuchet. Charging it with cavalry can also help (cavalry because of the longer charge distance).

All-in-all it comes down to the general and the favour of the dice gods :tounge:

I think that perhaps it is time we moved on from the Mumakil debate as it seems to just be going around in circles, so let's try and talk about something else. I'll start by explaining why it is I like Gondor. Firstly the wide array of reasonable to powerful heroes is great, there's a large variety of troops available, and on more of an opinionated note, the theme and look of the Gondorian troops is great!

I'm sure there are more reasons I started collecting Gondor, but those are the main ones. Do you feel the same way about the Gondor miniature range? If so then join Gondor today!

Cheers,
LAE671

[Artemis Entreri]

^You were going great right up until that fourth paragraph. Everything up to that point made sense.

[Lord Of Fangorn]

Well said LAE!

Gondor is arguably the most organised part of Middle Earth. We have troops that are heavily armoured with many elite upgrades. Best of all, some of the top heroes in the whole gaming system (such as King Elessar and Boromir Captain of the White Tower) fight for the glory of Gondor! With an army that stands head and shoulders above all those disorganised bands of raiders and hybrids, you really can't go wrong.

However enough about the army, now about the allegiance.

As this thread suggests, Gondor is an active allegiance with a few highly active members. We have lots going on at the moment as we improve the allegiance yet further. We are completely open to suggestions and many of us have had ideas which are at the moment are becoming realities. Join us to get in on the action.

(...and remember the bribery still stands!)

[BoromirCaptainOfGondor]

Thanks LAE.
May I also add that besides great heroes like Boromir and Aragorn, we also have Prince Imrahil and also the white Rider Gandalf!

[Heavywood]

Did i not just say that "no one would send a mumak all by itself"? it would have backup.

I wash agreeing with you. Prior to the Gondorians coming to their senses, they would focus on nothing but the Mumak and ignore all the other SK units on the table....

[Skywalker312]

The Mumak discussion is quite over, and thankfully so. As LAE said, it was going in circles. However, I might like to add that while Gondor is a great place to join, and if you are into Minas Tirith and other shiney(meaning armoured troops) things thats where you belong. True, they have good hero's such as Aragorn and Gandalf, and even Imrahil. If you play all those things in our game, Gondor is the place to be!

But if you like Large quantities of troops, easterlings that are just as good as Minas Tirith warriors, chariots (count as monsterous mounts, meaning that can knock over cavalry), and 8 troop types, join Serpent Kingdoms. As my friend Heavywood just said, you can't ignore the other troop types, for we now have many, as well as more to come (corsairs!)
Either way you are joining great allegiances on www.thepalantir.org (http://www.thepalantir.org) :palantir!:
best,

Sky

PS: if you want us to stop taking over your thread, just lable it [recruitment] as setforth in the new wartable rules at the top of the forum.

[Artemis Entreri]

I wash agreeing with you. Prior to the Gondorians coming to their senses, they would focus on nothing but the Mumak and ignore all the other SK units on the table....

Apologies. Excuse my thick-headedness. And, no, gondorians, the thick-headedness applies to me alone, not my alligence. just anticipating a possible argument.

Well said, sky.