[Debate] Fear the mighty Mumakil!

[Skywalker312]

all those who oppose evil shall soon know a new fear. With booms like drums, and shaking like earthquakes, the mumakil come. will you be with us, or against THEM! :twisted: :

http://www.wargamesjournal.com/sci_fi_fantasy/images/games_day_1.jpg

HARAD FOREVER!

[Commander_cool]

That pic is awesome, I've seen it before though.

There's probably 300-400 Rohirrim there, I feel sorry for the poor soul who had to paint them all...

[OrcSwarms]

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: Good thing you guys are our allies. Right....

[Skywalker312]

:shock: Good thing you guys are our allies. Right....

Yes together, we shall crush the tin men from Gondor! They will be overwhelmed by the might of evil!

[Lord of Edoras]

Lol. Harad may have Mumaks, but they are no match for Gondorians in battle, who have better wargear and greater leaders. Without your beasts, Haradrim are no more than wildmen.

[Skywalker312]

Lol. Harad may have Mumaks, but they are no match for Gondorians in battle, who have better wargear and greater leaders. Without your beasts, Haradrim are no more than wildmen.

but we do have the beasts, and even if we didn't we have much more useful calvary. poisen arrows go a long a way.

But I fear the Mumak. I was thinking of Immobilizing it.

thats right, fear us! gosh, you tin men ARE getting smarter.

[Lord of Edoras]

You got me there Sky! :D lol. Yes, Harad is more than just Mumak. Poison is a good example.

[OrcSwarms]

:shock: Good thing you guys are our allies. Right....

Yes together, we shall crush the tin men from Gondor! They will be overwhelmed by the might of evil!

*takes a deep sigh of relief* Just making sure there. And don't worry. If Gandalf ever brings up the courage to even attemp to Transfix any of your Mumakil, then the Witch King will be there to break his staff.

[LAE671]

Pfft, just wait till you see the photos from me and DM after Conflict Wellington... Siege of Minas Tirith + Battle of Pellenor Fields. We're looking at 4 or 5 Fellbeasts, incl. Witch king, I think it was 4 Mumakil, a bunch of catapults, siege towers and Grond... 6 foot wide Minas Tirith, plus a bunch of smaller minis.

All those Mumaks do look nice though. As to Gondor being defeated? I think not, ever shall the White Tree stand firm against the Serpent and the Eye.

Go the tin men!

Cheers,
LAE671

[Suladan, the Serpent Lord]

Even if your mighty leaders do survive one trample from a Mumak, we'll just turn around and trample you again... :D

[Ortheron]

LAE is scared, so is making up false comments to hide her insicurities. :wink:

[therfapil]

Is that some skoda i'm my numenorian eyes see??? the blue things in the middle?? if so those mumaks are screwd :lol:
Amroth for gondor!!! SPLATTSKI!! :cry:

[KingofRohan8888]

we elves however shall make pinchusions out of dirty filthy disgusting mumakil

And then they all die to arrows.

wait we shoot one so much it falls on another mumak and then the domino effect.

YAY!!!!!!!!

[Skywalker312]

we elves however shall make pinchusions out of dirty filthy disgusting mumakil

And then they all die to arrows.

wait we shoot one so much it falls on another mumak and then the domino effect.

YAY!!!!!!!!

tell me, how will you shoot the mumaks down, if our hasharii break your thumbs. you will be the ones to die, and squished like pancakes! :twisted:

[OrcSwarms]

we elves however shall make pinchusions out of dirty filthy disgusting mumakil

And then they all die to arrows.

wait we shoot one so much it falls on another mumak and then the domino effect.

YAY!!!!!!!!

tell me, how will you shoot the mumaks down, if our hasharii break your thumbs. you will be the ones to die, and squished like pancakes! :twisted:

Elven pancakes.....Yum!!! Save some for me!

[KingofRohan8888]

we Sindar are quicker and more stealthy so we willl kill the HAshrii too

[Ortheron]

wow, that was an uneducated response. Did you not see how many mumakil there are on that table? The elves are running away across the sea, they would be lucky to have the numbers to take down one, let alone the numerous mass of them shown in the picture.

[Skywalker312]

wow, that was an uneducated response. Did you not see how many mumakil there are on that table? The elves are running away across the sea, they would be lucky to have the numbers to take down one, let alone the numerous mass of them shown in the picture.

Well said Ortheron, and indeed they would run from a sight like that. anyone who doesn't run is either very brave or very stupid. Harad Forever!!!!

[KingofRohan8888]

But then again Ortheon we arn't playing fluff anyways

If i had enough elves to match the Mumakil then i would only have to make a pinchusion out of one and run it into the next one because you will most likely fail your C. Then run that one into another ect ect

And The Mumakil army is illegal

Mumakils are heroes.:D

[Skywalker312]

But then again Ortheon we arn't playing fluff anyways

If i had enough elves to match the Mumakil then i would only have to make a pinchusion out of one and run it into the next one because you will most likely fail your C. Then run that one into another ect ect

And The Mumakil army is illegal

Mumakils are heroes.:D

does no one realise, that you do not play mumakil vs loads of archers. perhaps i am missing something, but that is your answere for anything to do with mumakil. do you think we are deft enough to ride against ranks upon ranks of elven archers?

no we wouldn't, we would swarm you with haradrim. we have one of the cheapest, and most point effeciant calvary in the game, and when it comes to troops, we can outmatch you two to one in numbers.

if you think you can outshoot us, think again. reguardless if you hit on 3+, we still should have a better percentage of hitting you, because we have twice as many chances to do it.

and if we did fight with mumakil, you would be so preoccupied with it, that our regular troops would be the ones to bite you in the butt.

so consider this, if the mighty mumakil doesn't make you tremble(which you would have to be daft not to fear it), then watch out for legions of haradrim, who will go toe to toe with you anytime there is a battle. the power of elves is dwindling, and the power of Harad is rising and rising.

[KingofRohan8888]

OF course i would know that

but we have heroes like Elrond. Glorfindel ect

Nothing in Harad's arsenel can deal with such heroes

And we will pick off enough to get close around your numbers

So with are heroes and swordsman we can take out whatever comes while the elves take enough down to weaken your numbers enough to get somewhere near ares

[OrcSwarms]

That's why Harad have allies in the Armies of Mordor. To counter your heroes, we have many responces: Orc swarms, Trolls, Ringwraiths, Gothmog, ect. Harad provides Mumakil, calvary, and tons of troops. Mordor provides Heroes, Trolls, and, again, tons of troops. We outclass, outsize, AND outnumber you. Not good odds for you.

[Theonefish]

You would be right in cowering before the combined might of Mordor and Harad. Both of our legions combined marching from the east shall be an unstoppable tide of death.

[Skywalker312]

OF course i would know that

but we have heroes like Elrond. Glorfindel ect

Nothing in Harad's arsenel can deal with such heroes

And we will pick off enough to get close around your numbers

So with are heroes and swordsman we can take out whatever comes while the elves take enough down to weaken your numbers enough to get somewhere near ares

even the mightiest hero may be brought down with poisened arrows. even the mightiest warrior may be trampled by the mumakil. even hardened elven warriors can be ridden down my Haradrim Raiders.

and yes, with our friends from Mordor, you will be brought down like a sack of potatoes!

[zAk]

But then again Ortheon we arn't playing fluff anyways

If i had enough elves to match the Mumakil then i would only have to make a pinchusion out of one and run it into the next one because you will most likely fail your C. Then run that one into another ect ect

And The Mumakil army is illegal

Mumakils are heroes.:D

No theyre not! Itsthe captains riding them who are heroes not the mumakil , if you took a mumak for a hero then you would take a Cave troll as a hero too;)

Plus you dont think our strategy is as boring as yours do you? We dont have one kind of troop to do everything - we have many kinds of troops designed to deal with heros, normal troops, supa troops...

[KingofRohan8888]

No theyre not! Itsthe captains riding them who are heroes not the mumakil , if you took a mumak for a hero then you would take a Cave troll as a hero too;)

Plus you dont think our strategy is as boring as yours do you? We dont have one kind of troop to do everything - we have many kinds of troops designed to deal with heros, normal troops, supa troops...

Well its not my fault i didn't make several elf troops

Thats GW's fauly. :D

Also Mumakil are heroes

Look in the rulebook and under Harad it will say heroes

It ends after Mumakil

Mumakil are heroes.

[Ortheron]

this might sound stupid, but an all hero army is tourie legal isnt it?

[zAk]

this might sound stupid, but an all hero army is tourie legal isnt it?


this depends on the rules for the tournament by the people who are making the tournament - personally i *hate* the 50% points hero rule! Its compeletly dumb! I mean it doesnt lower my opponents chances of winning if i have 10 miniatures on board does it? Anyways the mumak isnt the hero there - its the chieftain, if you took the mumak as a hero then why doesnt it have MWF points?

zAk

[KingofRohan8888]

not all heroes don't need M/W/F points

Look in the book

Mumaks are heroes

[Skywalker312]

not all heroes don't need M/W/F points

Look in the book

Mumaks are heroes

Reguardless of how the rules state them, hero or not, the fact is, the mumak is the largest and most potentially deadly model in the game!

[Artemis Entreri]

Good thing you guys are our allies. Right....

I heartily concur. It is times like these that i can not help but fall to my knees and thank the Almighty that i'm Evil.
LONG LIVE RHUN!!! (and Harad;) )

[zAk]

Reguardless of how the rules state them, hero or not, the fact is, the mumak is the largest and most potentially deadly model in the game!


Ahh, i know im a Hararim but i have to say that Sauron is muuuch more powerful than a mumak - mostly because of the base size and no problems with stampede and the ability to just kill heroes lighting quick.... :p

zAk

[Artemis Entreri]

Ahh, i know im a Hararim but i have to say that Sauron is muuuch more powerful than a mumak - mostly because of the base size and no problems with stampede and the ability to just kill heroes lighting quick.... :p

zAk

True. However you can only have one Sauron but as you can see from the picture, you can have many Mumakil! ;)

[zAk]

True. However you can only have one Sauron but as you can see from the picture, you can have many Mumakil! ;)

yeah but ruleswise the mumakil are exactly as strong as their points are - ie if i put 300-400 points troops against one i would win. Theyre acctually really AWESOME when you take them to tournaments where the people dont suspect them! If someone does suspect one then he just bulks their army in more heroes/ less troops. Id say its a very tricky thing to play the mumak and thats why i dont play with it...

zAk

[Ortheron]

yeah but ruleswise the mumakil are exactly as strong as their points are - ie if i put 300-400 points troops against one i would win. Theyre acctually really AWESOME when you take them to tournaments where the people dont suspect them! If someone does suspect one then he just bulks their army in more heroes/ less troops. Id say its a very tricky thing to play the mumak and thats why i dont play with it...

zAk

lets just say the morale to the story is: mumakil are awesome, and though sometimes hard to use, always smoosh elves into the dirt.

[LAE671]

As much as I hate to admit it, Mumakil are indeed very effective. At Conflict Wellington, we had 4 Mumaks in the Game being run by DM and his gaming friends (Seige of Gondor/Battle of pellenor Fields, 750 minis...) and 70 Riders of Rohan, led by Theoden, Eomer, Eowyn, Gamling etc. I took control of one of the mumaks, and in one turn killed 19 Riders of Rohan. Carnage, none of them even came close to stopping it.

Still, Gondor's better, as you'll see when the campaign comes (hopefully).

cheers,
LAE671

[Artemis Entreri]

As much as I hate to admit it, Mumakil are indeed very effective. At Conflict Wellington, we had 4 Mumaks in the Game being run by DM and his gaming friends (Seige of Gondor/Battle of pellenor Fields, 750 minis...) and 70 Riders of Rohan, led by Theoden, Eomer, Eowyn, Gamling etc. I took control of one of the mumaks, and in one turn killed 19 Riders of Rohan. Carnage, none of them even came close to stopping it.

Still, Gondor's better, as you'll see when the campaign comes (hopefully).

cheers,
LAE671

We shall see, LAE671, we shall see...:eye:

[zAk]

As much as I hate to admit it, Mumakil are indeed very effective. At Conflict Wellington, we had 4 Mumaks in the Game being run by DM and his gaming friends (Seige of Gondor/Battle of pellenor Fields, 750 minis...) and 70 Riders of Rohan, led by Theoden, Eomer, Eowyn, Gamling etc. I took control of one of the mumaks, and in one turn killed 19 Riders of Rohan. Carnage, none of them even came close to stopping it.

Still, Gondor's better, as you'll see when the campaign comes (hopefully).

cheers,
LAE671

yeah and how many heroes did you have? i guess not too many, The mumakil are strong against all forces without heroes or with few heroes! If i was fighting against a 10 miniature army of heroes or even a 20 miniature army of heroes i wouldnt even stand the chance with no matter how many mumakil!

As for Gondor being the best? I dont think so, i dont think so my friend....
zAk

[Artemis Entreri]

As for Gondor being the best? I dont think so, i dont think so my friend....
zAk

zAk is right. Everybody knows that the Men of the East are the best. Duh!;)

[OrcSwarms]

zAk is right. Everybody knows that the Men of the East are the best. Duh!;)

Men of the East? Surely you mean that the Orcs of Mordor are the best. We are the oldest and most experienced evil race. I'm happy to have you'll as allies, but without us your Mumakil would be transfixed left and right. I'm not not saying that you're bad (on the contrary, you're better than most good forces out there), I'm just saying that we're better. :orc:

[zAk]

Men of the East? Surely you mean that the Orcs of Mordor are the best. We are the oldest and most experienced evil race. I'm happy to have you'll as allies, but without us your Mumakil would be transfixed left and right. I'm not not saying that you're bad (on the contrary, you're better than most good forces out there), I'm just saying that we're better. :orc:

there were evil creatures - including men - before you orcs! C'mon you guys are an effect of an anti elvish joke, a parody, and some genetic engineering!

zAk:aggressive:

[Artemis Entreri]

Ok seriously guys, we should stop this before the thread is locked. We are all evil here, right? Let's be friends!:friends:

[Skywalker312]

Friends you say, i think not. bothers in arms is a better way to put it.

besides which, both of us are better then the tin men and stable boys. elves are mere sissies and tree huggers, and dwarves are not but hairy stubs in the ground. nay, it will be evil who wins, not this rabble who call themselves the defenders of middle earth. we are the flood that brings death to all who oppose us.

[Skywalker312]

Friends you say, i think not. bothers in arms is a better way to put it.

besides which, both of us are better then the tin men and stable boys. elves are mere sissies and tree huggers, and dwarves are not but hairy stubs in the ground. nay, it will be evil who wins, not this rabble who call themselves the defenders of middle earth. we are the flood that brings death to all who oppose us.

:orc:

[Artemis Entreri]

Friends you say, i think not. bothers in arms is a better way to put it.

besides which, both of us are better then the tin men and stable boys. elves are mere sissies and tree huggers, and dwarves are not but hairy stubs in the ground. nay, it will be evil who wins, not this rabble who call themselves the defenders of middle earth. we are the flood that brings death to all who oppose us.

Now THAT'S more like it!:dwarf: :dwarf: :dwarf:

[OrcSwarms]

Friends you say, i think not. bothers in arms is a better way to put it.

besides which, both of us are better then the tin men and stable boys. elves are mere sissies and tree huggers, and dwarves are not but hairy stubs in the ground. nay, it will be evil who wins, not this rabble who call themselves the defenders of middle earth. we are the flood that brings death to all who oppose us.

:orc:


Cheers to that. We will fight as equals.
:orc::orc::orc::orc::orc::orc::orc:

[Artemis Entreri]

:orc::orc::orc::orc::orc::orc::orc:

I submit: your orc smilies are much cooler:veryhappy:

Lovin' the cooperation!:drink:

[silvani]

Just to let you guys know Goblins are with you too :) "Evil together = Evil forever"

[IGOTMEABOLTER]

In my long expeiriance as Dark Lord of my 3000pt Mordor horde, I've learned nothing goes for longer then good ol' infantry. Who needs moving targets like Mumaks or Fell Beasts when you can have 30 Morronon orcs or Uruk-Hai instead?

Bolter

[zAk]

In my long expeiriance as Dark Lord of my 3000pt Mordor horde, I've learned nothing goes for longer then good ol' infantry. Who needs moving targets like Mumaks or Fell Beasts when you can have 30 Morronon orcs or Uruk-Hai instead?

Bolter

You even bother playing 3000 pts battles??? What kind of a challenge is that to play! Booooooring :outcold: hehehehh

[Mordrorru]

You can send your mumakil charging at us.

However, I have a secret weapon that will send your mumakil trampling into each other!

MICE!

Just open up a few crates of mice and send them at the mumakil, and it will be all over.

[Artemis Entreri]

You can send your mumakil charging at us.

However, I have a secret weapon that will send your mumakil trampling into each other!

MICE!

Just open up a few crates of mice and send them at the mumakil, and it will be all over.

Gents, he brings up a good point...very well then....OUR SOLDIERS SHALL MARCH ARMED WITH CHEESE AND MOUSETRAPS!!! There! your move!:tounge:

[Artemis Entreri]

Wait one minute...what alliance are you with? Are you even on one?

[Ortheron]

he looks to be mordor, but why would we send mumaks charging at Mordor? :meeting:

[Skywalker312]

When the Forces of good come our way, will we be afraid?

when the pesky elves come bearing bows, will we show fear?

when the stunties from caves bring their axes, will we be afraid?

when the minute tin men come, or the puny stable bows, will we bow down to such weakness?

(the shire however, we embrace, we need the pipeweed!)

ask any member of the Serpent Kingdom Allegiance, and i think you and i will find the same answer!

[OrcSwarms]

When the Forces of good come our way, will we be afraid?

when the pesky elves come bearing bows, will we show fear?

when the stunties from caves bring their axes, will we be afraid?

when the minute tin men come, or the puny stable bows, will we bow down to such weakness?

(the shire however, we embrace, we need the pipeweed!)

ask any member of the Serpent Kingdom Allegiance, and i think you and i will find the same answer!

Ask any member of the Mordor Allegiance and you will get the same answer, also. Except the Hobbit part. After all, when we kill them all, we can take the pipeweed off their corpes.

[Skywalker312]

Ask any member of the Mordor Allegiance and you will get the same answer, also. Except the Hobbit part. After all, when we kill them all, we can take the pipeweed off their corpes.

i was only jesting about that part, we will break them like hammer upon anvil!

[OrcSwarms]

Aw good. Now we won't fight on whether to kill the Hobbits or not.

[Tar-Minyatur]

When the Forces of good come our way, will we be afraid?

when the pesky elves come bearing bows, will we show fear?

when the stunties from caves bring their axes, will we be afraid?

when the minute tin men come, or the puny stable bows, will we bow down to such weakness?

(the shire however, we embrace, we need the pipeweed!)

ask any member of the Serpent Kingdom Allegiance, and i think you and i will find the same answer!

But if you ask any member of A Good Side allegiance, you get the real answer. And you also forgot that we have eagles and wizards.

[zAk]

But if you ask any member of A Good Side allegiance, you get the real answer. And you also forgot that we have eagles and wizards.

which one is really strong and good, and intelligent enough to take an eagle huh? Because i didnt even SEE an acctuall talk or question or discussion on eagles... As to Wizards? All i need for magic is a Ringwraith, not to mention other sorcerers...


But if you ask any member of A Good Side allegiance, you get the real answer. And you also forgot that we have eagles and wizards.

What is it with you and eagles and wizards - we have sorcerers and we have troll which will rip apart eagles so truly you guys have no chance... To me its the Hobbit allegiance that will win - after all you wont find a Hobbit army easily AND Hobbit players can play with non-TP peoplee or not play at all which will almost solve the problem for them...

zAk

[edit by sky: posts merged]

[Skywalker312]

no replies eh, scared they are i think. good thing for them, they're finally starting to smarten up!:rofl:

[Ortheron]

When the Forces of good come our way, will we be afraid?

when the pesky elves come bearing bows, will we show fear?

when the stunties from caves bring their axes, will we be afraid?

when the minute tin men come, or the puny stable bows, will we bow down to such weakness?

(the shire however, we embrace, we need the pipeweed!)

ask any member of the Serpent Kingdom Allegiance, and i think you and i will find the same answer!

*Orth shouts "never", in cohesion with the many other warriors that have read this post.

Cmon guys, are we afraid ??

[Tar-Minyatur]

Cmon guys, are we afraid ??

Yes you are, or you should be.

[zAk]

Yes you are, or you should be.
:boredom:
I just dont get it - you guys sure would make good actors - pretending not to be afraid for such a long tim...:boredom:

[Tar-Minyatur]

You say I should fear Haradrim and your stupid oliphaunt?:rofl:

[OrcSwarms]

Yes you are, or you should be.


:rofl: Ah, that was a good one. Any more jokes?

[Artemis Entreri]

*Orth shouts "never", in cohesion with the many other warriors that have read this post.

Cmon guys, are we afraid ??

Heck no!!! Bring 'em on!! OO RAH!!!:orc:

[OrcSwarms]

Heck no!!! Bring 'em on!! OO RAH!!!:orc:

Hey! Find your own smilie. The Orc is ours. BTW, all Elves will die. Those who fear the Elves will perish with them!

Fear Us!!!:orc:

[Ortheron]

You say I should fear Haradrim and your stupid oliphaunt?:rofl:

Yup, i am pretty sure thats what this thread is about! Silly elves. :tounge:

[Artemis Entreri]

Hey! Find your own smilie. The Orc is ours. BTW, all Elves will die. Those who fear the Elves will perish with them!

Fear Us!!!:orc:

C'mon!! Gimme a break, there is no men of the east smilie. Well i guess you have :butcher: , or:assassin: , or we could show what our opponents will be screaming (cough,:help: , cough) but no, i decide to use this one:orc:, why, you might ask, because i want to.

Yeah, that was a pointless rant.

But i do agree with you on your second point, the elves will die. By whose hand i really don't care just so long as they die.

[Artemis Entreri]

Hey Sky, Zak, Orth, what smilie should we use anyway? that's actually a good point...

[Skywalker312]

in the next week or two, im going to try my hand(or get help in trying) to make a specific SK one.

best,

SKy

[OrcSwarms]

in the next week or two, im going to try my hand(or get help in trying) to make a specific SK one.

best,

SKy
Tell me when it's done. I gotta see this.

[Ortheron]

in the next week or two, im going to try my hand(or get help in trying) to make a specific SK one.

best,

SKy
i tried one, and it turned out....not too great. The idea was ok, i might get one of the AV people to try it.

[Skywalker312]

From what you see here, you will die from. the mighty haradrim will kill all in their path!

http://www.fallen68.de/assets/images/Haradrim_2.JPG

[Lyte]

Sky, You realize that the next frame those mumaks and haradrim died right? Guess who killed them, rangers and Faramir. :jester:

[Artemis Entreri]

Sky, You realize that the next frame those mumaks and haradrim died right? Guess who killed them, rangers and Faramir. :jester:

That was an ambush. The rangers had the element of surprise and the haradrim couldn't figure out where the heck the rangers where in the long grass. Let's see how long the rangers would last against the Mumakil on an open battle field, and then you can :jester:all you want to your turkish delight

[Lyte]

Thats the point of an ambush, to make the enemy freak, and to catch them off guard. Yes, the rangers would probably die in an open field, but thats why they aren't regular soldiers, just the ambushing-scaring the heck out of people- rangers. :veryhappy:

And I like Turkish Delight very much! :tease:

[Artemis Entreri]

Alright, seeing's that i'm a witless oaf, i'm outta verbal ammo. Serpent Kingdoms, this is Entreri requesting immediate support, over. Repeat: this is Entreri requesting immediate support, over....:help:

(I mean, everybody knows that all of the tribesmen carried walkie-talkies.)

[OrcSwarms]

Alright, seeing's that i'm a witless oaf, i'm outta verbal ammo. Serpent Kingdoms, this is Entreri requesting immediate support, over. Repeat: this is Entreri requesting immediate support, over....:help:

(I mean, everybody knows that all of the tribesmen carried walkie-talkies.)
Though I'm not a Serpent Member, I'll help my ally. Hiding and ambushing just shows the character of thr rangers. In order to kill anything they have to hide and wait. If any of the ambushes were somehow dicovered before they happened, then the rangers would be slaughtered. We Orcs and Haradrim are not afraid to fight in the open field.
:orc::orc::orc:

[Lyte]

And neither are anyone else who had the training to fight in the open field. Being a ranger is WAY harder to do than just marching in formation and fighting(I know there is more to that, but meh.) A ranger has to be skilled in the arts of tracking, hiding, evasion of enemy forces and able to get so close to the enemy that if they are found out they basically have no chance of getting out. The rangers are also excellent in shooting a bow and fighting with sword where needed, these men make the regular soldiers look like children. Any army that has rangers included already have an advantage, that is, if the commander was smart enough to choose a battlefield that has plenty of terrain in it. :veryhappy:

[Ortheron]

Any army that has rangers included already have an advantage, that is, if the commander was smart enough to choose a battlefield that has plenty of terrain in it. :veryhappy:

indeed, how would you fare in the deserts of harad? or anywhere else without forests(and woods etc. same thing) for that matter?

When we seige your fortresses, when we raid your pellenor...we will see how your hooded archers fare. (unless you summon a certain army of ghostly green characters ...wont mention any names :veryhappy:)

[Heavywood]

And neither are anyone else who had the training to fight in the open field. Being a ranger is WAY harder to do than just marching in formation and fighting(I know there is more to that, but meh.) A ranger has to be skilled in the arts of tracking, hiding, evasion of enemy forces and able to get so close to the enemy that if they are found out they basically have no chance of getting out. The rangers are also excellent in shooting a bow and fighting with sword where needed, these men make the regular soldiers look like children. Any army that has rangers included already have an advantage, that is, if the commander was smart enough to choose a battlefield that has plenty of terrain in it. :veryhappy:


The rangers didn't fare too well in Osgilioth when our allies in Mordor stormed the place. I seem to remember rangers and onion heads getting absolutely owned during that battle.....

1 phrase: "Release the prisoners!"

[zAk]

And neither are anyone else who had the training to fight in the open field. Being a ranger is WAY harder to do than just marching in formation and fighting(I know there is more to that, but meh.) A ranger has to be skilled in the arts of tracking, hiding, evasion of enemy forces and able to get so close to the enemy that if they are found out they basically have no chance of getting out. The rangers are also excellent in shooting a bow and fighting with sword where needed, these men make the regular soldiers look like children. Any army that has rangers included already have an advantage, that is, if the commander was smart enough to choose a battlefield that has plenty of terrain in it. :veryhappy:

1. Commanders dont choose terrain

2. One ranger is nothing compared to 20 orcs who see him

3. a ranger hides in the bushes for days before he attacks

4. the costs and casualties of training an experienced ranger are much greater than giving weapons to 20 scum and letting it charge and die just to cover the true warriors.

5. a ranger might be cool but is effective only when under cover, in a good position, good training, and then he needs luck and a good situation ...

[Lyte]

1. Commanders dont choose terrain

2. One ranger is nothing compared to 20 orcs who see him

3. a ranger hides in the bushes for days before he attacks

4. the costs and casualties of training an experienced ranger are much greater than giving weapons to 20 scum and letting it charge and die just to cover the true warriors.

5. a ranger might be cool but is effective only when under cover, in a good position, good training, and then he needs luck and a good situation ...


i.e. They are better, thank you for proving my point! :woot:

Now, I'll retire and let some Gondorians handle this.

[Artemis Entreri]

No, what Zak said is that Rangers only win when they have the advantage of terrain and surprise. He did not say that they were better and if anything he was saying that they are pathetic compared to the true warriors of the East.

[Heavywood]

i.e. They are better, thank you for proving my point! :woot:

Now, I'll retire and let some Gondorians handle this.


I'm confused as to how that list proves the point that rangers are better. Though it would be nice if a gondorian would come by so we can ridicule their armies again......

[Skywalker312]

i agree, the tin men and stable boys are just so easy to cut down!:friends:

[Old Dwarf]

From what you see here, you will die from. the mighty haradrim will kill all in their path!

http://www.fallen68.de/assets/images/Haradrim_2.JPG


Be warned the Dwarves have trained packs of killer Cave Mice to sow
panic among your MumaKil(that should give you more poop to shovel.:sick:

OD

[Sharmu]

Be warned the Dwarves have trained packs of killer Cave Mice to sow
panic among your MumaKil(that should give you more poop to shovel.:sick:

OD

That's all the Harad alegencies are good for shoveling ****. If you don't want to shovel **** you should joing the forces of good.

[Heavywood]

That's all the Harad alegencies are good for shoveling ****. If you don't want to shovel **** you should joing the forces of good.


That's funny you should bring up shoveling poo, isn't that what farmers do most of the day?

(I already know the answer, I live on a farm)

:)

[Ortheron]

dont you good-siders think that mumak poop joke is getting a little old / lame? It seems to be the only thing you can say as a comeback....getting a little repetitive, yes?

[zAk]

Hah - silly - we dont have to shovel **** - however you guys eventually could step in it during a battle with us! I was thinking since the Mumak came out to make rules for

mumak poo - all models in 4" range of the mumak poo have to make a move of 1" away from the poo before making any other moves. Also the poo is 1" high and 2" wide - it is considered difficult terrain. All the haradrim player could do is take a mumak and leave a line of mumak poo and you good models wont make it past it! :rofl:

zAk

[Heavywood]

*sniff *sniff

Do I smell a new house rule here?

See folks, if you join Harad not only can you stomp over all the competition with a Mumak, you get the privelidge of this great new house rule!

[Skywalker312]

The mighty mumakil triumph again on the field of battle. None have been able to stand before the might of Harad so far, will you be the next to fall?

Join Serpent Kingdoms today! Harad forever, Khand forever, Rhun forever!!!

[Artemis Entreri]

^Amen, brotha.:friends:

[Heavywood]

With the new line of Khandish models, us of the our tools of dominance just increased in an unmeasurable way. Chariots, archers and ax-men, all the more reason for the forces of good to fear us.

So, what do you say you give the winning race a try?

[Skywalker312]

Well said Heavywood, the foes of SK will be run down like dogs by our new forces. Join SK today, and be on the winning side

[Isherwood]

I can see Dol Amroth. AMROTH FOR GONDOR! xD

[Skywalker312]

I can see Dol Amroth too!


RUNNING AWAY FROM US IN FEAR!

[Lord Of Fangorn]

Not FEAR: They will be running to fetch the reinforcements from Minas Tirith to squash the mumak minions.

[Heavywood]

Excellent, the more you bring the less we have to search, therefore hastening the demise of the Forces of Good.

Would you like me to draw a map?

[Ortheron]

Excellent, the more you bring the less we have to search, therefore hastening the demise of the Forces of Good.

Would you like me to draw a map?

start at Gondor....go south :rofl:

[Artemis Entreri]

Gentlemen, (and i don't think there are any Ladies on this site, correct me if i'm wrong) I would like to point out a rather silly (good silly, not bad/immature silly) thing just in case nobody has noticed:

This topic officially started in March.

It is now July. Almost August.

We are still arguing over whether or not the Mumakil should be feared when the obvious answer is yes.

Wow.

Go us.:veryhappy:

[Heavywood]

Evidently the tin (foil perhaps?) helmets are blocking reason along with the secret signals from the aliens. :taunt:

[Skywalker312]

Perhaps it is so, heavy wood:good:

[Lord Of Fangorn]

You think this has been going on for a while! Look at "Join Gondor!!!" (and if you want join the gondor allegiance!).

BTW The helmets are working very well thanks very much!

[Skywalker312]

You think this has been going on for a while! Look at "Join Gondor!!!" (and if you want join the gondor allegiance!).

BTW The helmets are working very well thanks very much!

Im glad they are working, you'll need all you can get:ok:

[Lord Of Fangorn]

*LOF takes the moral high-ground and walks away from the conversation, secretly contemplating his next move*

[Artemis Entreri]

(Stewie Griffin voice) Yes, yes, you go and stand in the corner and contemplate you next move like a weak little gentleman while we shall stand here in our evil glory and laugh at you!! HA!!! I mock thee!!!!:tounge: